Ben Shalom

deserves a huge amount of credit and for him to come in that shape with that mentality with all the demons that we spoke about that he'll have been carrying into that fight with all the pressure that comes with that as well because that could have been a really really bad night and people definitely would have been calling for the end of his career had that gone wrong but it was a phenomenal performance I really believe that I thought justice was good

I thought Fraser was good.

It was nip and tuck.

He could have won that fight had he not had a few demons and a few things he was carrying.

Working through things.

Exactly.

I think two fights on in his progression with Joe Gallagher, he wins that fight comfortably.

But I saw enough.

And I think the world saw enough.

I think boxing fans saw enough and go, you know what?

Fraser Clough is a very talented fighter.

And a couple more fights, he's going to be a force in the heavyweight division.

And credit to him because he takes every single fight

He takes losses on the chin.

He takes draws on the chin.

He's loyal to a fault, which may be why it's taken him a while to make that move to Joe Gallagher.

And that's no disrespect to anyone because sometimes just change is needed in any situation.

People said to me, that's a win-win for you, and I had to say, no, I genuinely believe it's a lose-lose, because...

Richard was actually the first boxer I ever signed.

I was about 26 and he was about 32.