Ben Shapiro

I think he did a brave thing.

I think he did the right thing.

But I think it's a it's a time game.

I think at some point the time runs out.

Well, I mean, obviously, I think that everybody has their eye on the calendar.

And that's what the polls show is that the American people are supportive of this so long as, as Chris says, this last month and it doesn't last four months.

And obviously, Chris is also right that if we're talking about this at election time, it's going to be a terrible thing for the president and for the party.

I think there are a couple of things that are happening here.

One is a political thing and one is a not political thing.

The not political thing is that I think President Trump looks at his presidency and he says this is the last chance for America to actually end this threat.

Because post his presidency, the chances are very good that whoever succeeds him is going to be incredibly soft on this issue.

And then Iran is going to rebuild.

It's going to remobilize.

It's going to take additional control.

So if you don't like what Iran is doing in the Strait of Hormuz now, wait until they have ICBMs tipped with nuclear missiles.

I mean, like that is the thing that I think President Trump is correctly saying.

And on a moral level, that's why I think it is quite brave what he's doing.

As far as what does victory looks like, I think that there are sort of two things that we have to look at.

What does not defeat look like?

And then what does victory look like?