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Ben Taub

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Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And she said, I don't know why people keep saying I want to go to Denmark.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

If you want to go, I'll go with you.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

But the idea had not come from her.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And so Trump hung up the phone, cancelled the trip and then blamed it on Matt Fredrickson.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

Yeah, so right after this sort of episode involving the Wall Street Journal and the visit to Denmark that never took place, it seemed to the Danes and to the public in both the United States and in Denmark that this entire idea had essentially evaporated.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

But what actually happened was the discussion just moved to secure rooms in the Eisenhower Executive Office building where the National Security Council meets.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And there it took up a lot of energy among Trump's national security staff.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

You had a new what they call policy coordination committee that was set up, which is in this case, it was a secret National Security Council task force that was focused on the acquisition of Greenland.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And among the leaders of this effort were a former special operations soldier named Drew Horn.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

During Trump's first term, he worked for both the Departments of Energy and Defense.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

He worked for the Office of the Vice President, and he also worked in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And he was the co-leader of the Greenland PCC, as they called it.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And then you also had ideologues such as a man named Tom Danz, who is sort of a part of the MAGA crowd, as he would describe himself, who joined Trump's term after his brother, who went on to become the director of Project 2025.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

His brother was a lawyer in the White House who essentially participated and led a purge of career officials and replaced them with loyalists.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And so Tom Danz joined the administration in early 2020 in the Treasury Department and soon thereafter was serving as the Treasury's representative on the Greenland PCC.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And the focus of the Greenland PCC was to subvert the Kingdom of Denmark.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

There's sort of no easier or clearer way of putting it.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

Their activities were centered on a real concern about potential pathways for Greenlandic independence and potential vulnerabilities of Greenlandic independence.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

there was a real legitimate national security issue to consider about if Greenland is on an inevitable path towards independence, then would the Greenlandic government in, say, 10 or 20 or 30 or 50 years still want to honor the agreements and the treaties that the United States has with Denmark, its former colonial master, as one of the senior national security officials put to me yesterday.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

But the way that they went about addressing this question was not to coordinate, you know, this in open dialogue with the Greenlanders or the Danes and articulate their concerns, but rather to essentially work to try to accelerate Greenlandic independence in ways that would bring about a greater reliance on the US and essentially cut Denmark out of the picture.