Ben Terris
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But this kind of roiling of the staff, this wading into very difficult conversations via meme, it just feels like the office is like – it doesn't handle it very well.
But this kind of roiling of the staff, this wading into very difficult conversations via meme, it just feels like the office is like – it doesn't handle it very well.
But this kind of roiling of the staff, this wading into very difficult conversations via meme, it just feels like the office is like – it doesn't handle it very well.
Yeah, so nobody I spoke to for this story would say that every single issue that they have with John Fetterman is because of his mental health issues. They would not say every single position that he's taking and the way that he's talking about them is because of his mental health struggles. But the issue that they have is it became harder and harder to tell which which was, right?
Yeah, so nobody I spoke to for this story would say that every single issue that they have with John Fetterman is because of his mental health issues. They would not say every single position that he's taking and the way that he's talking about them is because of his mental health struggles. But the issue that they have is it became harder and harder to tell which which was, right?
Yeah, so nobody I spoke to for this story would say that every single issue that they have with John Fetterman is because of his mental health issues. They would not say every single position that he's taking and the way that he's talking about them is because of his mental health struggles. But the issue that they have is it became harder and harder to tell which which was, right?
It was harder and harder to tell which was something that John Fetterman was speaking out about because he was going through a hard time and which were issues that he just believed in his core and always has been. And also, it's about how he spoke about these issues, right? It's one thing for John Fetterman to be pro-Israel. Lots of Democrats are pro-Israel. Chuck Schumer is pro-Israel.
It was harder and harder to tell which was something that John Fetterman was speaking out about because he was going through a hard time and which were issues that he just believed in his core and always has been. And also, it's about how he spoke about these issues, right? It's one thing for John Fetterman to be pro-Israel. Lots of Democrats are pro-Israel. Chuck Schumer is pro-Israel.
It was harder and harder to tell which was something that John Fetterman was speaking out about because he was going through a hard time and which were issues that he just believed in his core and always has been. And also, it's about how he spoke about these issues, right? It's one thing for John Fetterman to be pro-Israel. Lots of Democrats are pro-Israel. Chuck Schumer is pro-Israel.
But what a lot of staffers told me is the way that he started talking about Israel, the way that he would put himself into these fights and would be on social media and almost seemed to kind of relish being him against the world. Somebody in a text I saw said that John Fetterman against the world is his comfortable place.
But what a lot of staffers told me is the way that he started talking about Israel, the way that he would put himself into these fights and would be on social media and almost seemed to kind of relish being him against the world. Somebody in a text I saw said that John Fetterman against the world is his comfortable place.
But what a lot of staffers told me is the way that he started talking about Israel, the way that he would put himself into these fights and would be on social media and almost seemed to kind of relish being him against the world. Somebody in a text I saw said that John Fetterman against the world is his comfortable place.
That kind of mentality just started to feel untenable and felt like this is not just an issue of us having a difference of policy beliefs. It's about us worrying that he's taking things too far.
That kind of mentality just started to feel untenable and felt like this is not just an issue of us having a difference of policy beliefs. It's about us worrying that he's taking things too far.
That kind of mentality just started to feel untenable and felt like this is not just an issue of us having a difference of policy beliefs. It's about us worrying that he's taking things too far.
When I get there, at first, it's great. You know, Fetterman and I have this history. When I reported on him back in 2018, he told me that I was one of the few reporters who really got him at the time. And so he was excited to talk to me. And I was excited to talk to him. I mean, he's an interesting guy.
When I get there, at first, it's great. You know, Fetterman and I have this history. When I reported on him back in 2018, he told me that I was one of the few reporters who really got him at the time. And so he was excited to talk to me. And I was excited to talk to him. I mean, he's an interesting guy.
When I get there, at first, it's great. You know, Fetterman and I have this history. When I reported on him back in 2018, he told me that I was one of the few reporters who really got him at the time. And so he was excited to talk to me. And I was excited to talk to him. I mean, he's an interesting guy.
And so at first, before getting into kind of the difficult parts of my reporting, I wanted to just give him the opportunity to talk about things, to talk about his place in the Democratic Party, about what it was like for him to go visit Mar-a-Lago to meet with Donald Trump. to talk about what Democrats were getting right and getting wrong. And he was kind of the old Fetterman in a way, right?
And so at first, before getting into kind of the difficult parts of my reporting, I wanted to just give him the opportunity to talk about things, to talk about his place in the Democratic Party, about what it was like for him to go visit Mar-a-Lago to meet with Donald Trump. to talk about what Democrats were getting right and getting wrong. And he was kind of the old Fetterman in a way, right?