Ben Thompson
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41,192 appearances
118 recordings
2 series
first heard Sep 2024
last heard 21 Aug
Ben Thompson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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So they can distill it better than anyone else can.
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But all those models on Apple's devices.
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Are not the models that Google serves.
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They are the models Apple serves because both Google and Apple distill from Gemini for models to serve.
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So they're doing their own distilling in with Google's help, but it's it's it's not Google's, it's not the same ones that Google has.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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It's so the one in the cloud then.
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The one in the cloud, as I understand it, is some sort of Gemini model at its base.
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But then the way models are today, there's so much post training and things you sort of layer on after the initial model is done that it's effectively it's not a different model, but it's there's multiple variations of models that that can be accessed.
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And that that when you see all these companies, oh, new model, new model, they're releasing models all the time.
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No, there's genuinely new models.
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Like say a mythos, that is like a new, uh new uh uh training run.
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But lots of the new model releases are not new training runs, they're new post-training and new sort of uh reinforcement learning that sort of makes in they're continually being improved by this post-pre, like you do one pre-training a year, a couple a year, and then you just you iterate on that one that's there.
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Yeah.
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So Apple has done that to Gemini.
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That's what's being served in the
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That is different than Google's and appropriately so.
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They're tuning the model for their use case.
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So all of this is
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