Ben van Kerkwyk

That idea has been around for a long time and it's just everything else around it has shifted.

Such that, I mean, I hope, I really do hope that it's just that the context, the next generation of academics can take some of this context into account.

Yeah.

You're right.

There's a lot of – I mean it's amazing that the medium has shifted to give –

people of voice, I guess, that are into it.

And my friend George Howard has a great way of explaining this in terms of a potential talent pool, if you consider like, okay, so current academics, at least the ones that are the old guard now, have kind of been selected from the people that chose to go to university, that got into universities, and you have this pool.

But now with kind of the internet,

And it's like you're exposing these ideas to such a wider variety of people that you can then – there's going to be people out there that think about these things a certain way.

Obsessed polymaths.

Obsessed polymaths that are going to be able to come forward and give those ideas.

And it's –

I think, you know, the vast majority of significant breakthroughs in pretty much any scientific field have usually come from somewhere that's not within the box thinking.

It's usually anti-establishment or it's outside the box thinking.

Not always, but a lot of those ideas came from like, this has come complete from left field, like germ theory, all that sort of stuff.

It's like, what are you?

You're crazy.

You've got this dumb idea and then it turns out, ah, you know, 30, 40 years later, it's like, that was the right idea.

Yeah.

And we go from there.