Ben Wilson

I think you're a nice person. I don't think you're a normal person. Okay.

Do you, do you like being, well, first of all, I guess, how famous are you? How famous are you? How often do you get recognized if you're out in public?

Do you, do you like being, well, first of all, I guess, how famous are you? How famous are you? How often do you get recognized if you're out in public?

The Acquired guys had a big New York Times article about them last year, I think. Have you had anything like that yet? No. Interesting. No, no.

The Acquired guys had a big New York Times article about them last year, I think. Have you had anything like that yet? No. Interesting. No, no.

Just never would be into this stuff. It's interesting. I like, I guess I started asking about fame a little bit just because it's, I forget sometimes because in my world, like you're pretty famous of like the people I interact with every day on Twitter, like of the people that I associate with every, every day that I mostly talk to, I read their stuff. I'm talking like,

Just never would be into this stuff. It's interesting. I like, I guess I started asking about fame a little bit just because it's, I forget sometimes because in my world, like you're pretty famous of like the people I interact with every day on Twitter, like of the people that I associate with every, every day that I mostly talk to, I read their stuff. I'm talking like,

90 something percent of them know who you are. You're famous in that, in that group.

90 something percent of them know who you are. You're famous in that, in that group.

What about like, I mean, so like basketball, you like basketball. You used to like to watch basketball. You don't really watch basketball anymore.

What about like, I mean, so like basketball, you like basketball. You used to like to watch basketball. You don't really watch basketball anymore.

Do you miss it? No.

Do you miss it? No.

And it just reminded me of so many other founders. It's just like this really odd personality trait that you just notice between them. They just are reflexively not introspective. The funniest is when people ask Steve Jobs about him being adopted and whether that had any impact on his psyche. And you'd expect him to either be like, yeah, that really changed who I am.

And it just reminded me of so many other founders. It's just like this really odd personality trait that you just notice between them. They just are reflexively not introspective. The funniest is when people ask Steve Jobs about him being adopted and whether that had any impact on his psyche. And you'd expect him to either be like, yeah, that really changed who I am.

Or at least be like, no, that had nothing to do with it. But instead he's just like very flippant. It's just like completely not introspective, right? He's just like, yeah, no, I don't know. I don't know.

Or at least be like, no, that had nothing to do with it. But instead he's just like very flippant. It's just like completely not introspective, right? He's just like, yeah, no, I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. I've always, the analogy in my head is, uh, it's like a shark that smells blood, right? When you find a great founder and you're like trying to stick a microphone in the shark's face and you're like, Hey, why are you chasing this thing that you smell bleeding?

Yeah. I've always, the analogy in my head is, uh, it's like a shark that smells blood, right? When you find a great founder and you're like trying to stick a microphone in the shark's face and you're like, Hey, why are you chasing this thing that you smell bleeding?

It was like the shark, what I do, even if it tried to introspect, it doesn't know, you know, like all it knows is it smells blood and like, please stop sticking a microphone in my face. Cause I need to eat, you know? And I think that's true of like, When people find the thing that they were born to do, it's really hard to get them to think about why that is.