Benjamin Saltzman

Right.

Um,

So it stays with you, if that makes sense.

And it causes you in some ways to become a question to yourself, to question why you turned away.

And I think that's really valuable.

I don't know.

I think they're related.

It's just a matter of scale.

And I guess that's why this is such a real dilemma.

Where should we direct our action?

Where should we direct our attention?

And it's really hard to navigate that, especially nowadays where you're constantly encountering things that demand your attention.

I mean, the question, I guess, what are the values that we want to teach our children, right?

And one value that we've, I think, been passing along from generation to generation is like, pay attention.

right?

Pay attention to the world, pay attention to, you know, difficult, terrible things that are happening.

And if you're not paying attention, that's a kind of moral failure.

But on the other hand, I think what we should be teaching children too is take time to be thoughtful, right?

Take time to reflect and that enables real action.

And so, I'd say like to that scenario of the child observing the parent,