Benjamin Zeller
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Correct. They were communal. And initially they lived basically in campgrounds. They didn't have any money at first. So they were sort of squatting as they went. When they came into money through a member's inheritance and then later they got some tech jobs, they could afford rent, they graduated to houses. And eventually there was the one house, which they referred to as their craft.
Correct. They were communal. And initially they lived basically in campgrounds. They didn't have any money at first. So they were sort of squatting as they went. When they came into money through a member's inheritance and then later they got some tech jobs, they could afford rent, they graduated to houses. And eventually there was the one house, which they referred to as their craft.
So actually it's sort of that language. So they lived within their craft. And yes, it was what we would call a commune.
So actually it's sort of that language. So they lived within their craft. And yes, it was what we would call a commune.
So actually it's sort of that language. So they lived within their craft. And yes, it was what we would call a commune.
Yeah, the two founders of Heaven's Gate, Marshall Herff Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles, meet in 1972. The group itself really doesn't emerge until 1975. Those first few years, the two of them are working out sort of what they believe. They see themselves as spiritual partners, but it takes them a couple of years to figure out what that partnership entails.
Yeah, the two founders of Heaven's Gate, Marshall Herff Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles, meet in 1972. The group itself really doesn't emerge until 1975. Those first few years, the two of them are working out sort of what they believe. They see themselves as spiritual partners, but it takes them a couple of years to figure out what that partnership entails.
Yeah, the two founders of Heaven's Gate, Marshall Herff Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles, meet in 1972. The group itself really doesn't emerge until 1975. Those first few years, the two of them are working out sort of what they believe. They see themselves as spiritual partners, but it takes them a couple of years to figure out what that partnership entails.
Ich muss klar sein, dass es keine Ereignisse gab, dass sie in sexuellen Aktivitäten oder verheiratet waren. Sie sahen sich als furchtbar. Und am Ende des Gruppens sahen sie sich wie die theologischen Figuren aus der Bibel, über die wir reden können. Aber zumindest in erster Linie sahen sie sich als eine Gruppe aus, und das haben sie in den 70er-Jahren gemacht.
Ich muss klar sein, dass es keine Ereignisse gab, dass sie in sexuellen Aktivitäten oder verheiratet waren. Sie sahen sich als furchtbar. Und am Ende des Gruppens sahen sie sich wie die theologischen Figuren aus der Bibel, über die wir reden können. Aber zumindest in erster Linie sahen sie sich als eine Gruppe aus, und das haben sie in den 70er-Jahren gemacht.
Ich muss klar sein, dass es keine Ereignisse gab, dass sie in sexuellen Aktivitäten oder verheiratet waren. Sie sahen sich als furchtbar. Und am Ende des Gruppens sahen sie sich wie die theologischen Figuren aus der Bibel, über die wir reden können. Aber zumindest in erster Linie sahen sie sich als eine Gruppe aus, und das haben sie in den 70er-Jahren gemacht.
Both Bonnie Lou Nettles and Mark Schroeder of Elwha White, the two founders, who go by T and Do, were really into ideas about UFOs. So there's also this broader sort of ufology, which if we think about it today, this is sort of old hat. But in the 70s, it was still very sort of new and very exciting. This was all still very new and very exciting and very open.
Both Bonnie Lou Nettles and Mark Schroeder of Elwha White, the two founders, who go by T and Do, were really into ideas about UFOs. So there's also this broader sort of ufology, which if we think about it today, this is sort of old hat. But in the 70s, it was still very sort of new and very exciting. This was all still very new and very exciting and very open.
Both Bonnie Lou Nettles and Mark Schroeder of Elwha White, the two founders, who go by T and Do, were really into ideas about UFOs. So there's also this broader sort of ufology, which if we think about it today, this is sort of old hat. But in the 70s, it was still very sort of new and very exciting. This was all still very new and very exciting and very open.
And it was a little less fringe, perhaps. I mean, it was always sort of somewhat fringe. Aber die Idee, dass man UFOs ernst nehmen würde, war relativ vordergründig. Und die Founders und die Leute, die dabei waren, waren wirklich fasziniert von diesen Fragen und besonders von der Interpretation, dass die UFOs, diese fliegenden Flieger, aus dem Außenspaß kamen.
And it was a little less fringe, perhaps. I mean, it was always sort of somewhat fringe. Aber die Idee, dass man UFOs ernst nehmen würde, war relativ vordergründig. Und die Founders und die Leute, die dabei waren, waren wirklich fasziniert von diesen Fragen und besonders von der Interpretation, dass die UFOs, diese fliegenden Flieger, aus dem Außenspaß kamen.
And it was a little less fringe, perhaps. I mean, it was always sort of somewhat fringe. Aber die Idee, dass man UFOs ernst nehmen würde, war relativ vordergründig. Und die Founders und die Leute, die dabei waren, waren wirklich fasziniert von diesen Fragen und besonders von der Interpretation, dass die UFOs, diese fliegenden Flieger, aus dem Außenspaß kamen.
Es hat auch wirklich von den 50er-Jahren an angefangen, A sort of a subcurrent within American alternative religion that identified the beings on board the flying saucers as religious teachers, here to give spiritual guidance to the world.
Es hat auch wirklich von den 50er-Jahren an angefangen, A sort of a subcurrent within American alternative religion that identified the beings on board the flying saucers as religious teachers, here to give spiritual guidance to the world.
Es hat auch wirklich von den 50er-Jahren an angefangen, A sort of a subcurrent within American alternative religion that identified the beings on board the flying saucers as religious teachers, here to give spiritual guidance to the world.