Benjamin Zeller

And by shrinking, they were able to maintain the cohesion of the group. Fundamental norms of the group was asked to leave. If you are prone to sort of negative outlook, you'd say that anyone who sort of challenged the group's leaders was kicked out. I would say from sort of a religious perspective, it really came down to sort of behavioral social norms. If you didn't fit, you were asked to leave.

And by shrinking, they were able to maintain the cohesion of the group. Fundamental norms of the group was asked to leave. If you are prone to sort of negative outlook, you'd say that anyone who sort of challenged the group's leaders was kicked out. I would say from sort of a religious perspective, it really came down to sort of behavioral social norms. If you didn't fit, you were asked to leave.

And by shrinking, they were able to maintain the cohesion of the group. Fundamental norms of the group was asked to leave. If you are prone to sort of negative outlook, you'd say that anyone who sort of challenged the group's leaders was kicked out. I would say from sort of a religious perspective, it really came down to sort of behavioral social norms. If you didn't fit, you were asked to leave.

And there were people who left. And there were also, to be clear, many people who left voluntarily. In fact, most people left voluntarily.

And there were people who left. And there were also, to be clear, many people who left voluntarily. In fact, most people left voluntarily.

And there were people who left. And there were also, to be clear, many people who left voluntarily. In fact, most people left voluntarily.

So I would say, having studied Heaven's Gate for basically, I don't know, for a while now, it's been 20 years over. One of the things that I've always found remarkable at Heaven's Gate is I think everyone who was involved knew what they were getting into. There was no one who had the wool pulled over their eyes.

So I would say, having studied Heaven's Gate for basically, I don't know, for a while now, it's been 20 years over. One of the things that I've always found remarkable at Heaven's Gate is I think everyone who was involved knew what they were getting into. There was no one who had the wool pulled over their eyes.

So I would say, having studied Heaven's Gate for basically, I don't know, for a while now, it's been 20 years over. One of the things that I've always found remarkable at Heaven's Gate is I think everyone who was involved knew what they were getting into. There was no one who had the wool pulled over their eyes.

It was very clear from the beginning, this is a group which is about leaving the planet. Now, initially in the 70s, they did to be clear, not endorse suicide. Suicide came much later. But there was over a decade where basically they had seen at least suicide as a possibility. Also, I think the leaders believed it. And I think that that really marks this group maybe and not as unique.

It was very clear from the beginning, this is a group which is about leaving the planet. Now, initially in the 70s, they did to be clear, not endorse suicide. Suicide came much later. But there was over a decade where basically they had seen at least suicide as a possibility. Also, I think the leaders believed it. And I think that that really marks this group maybe and not as unique.

It was very clear from the beginning, this is a group which is about leaving the planet. Now, initially in the 70s, they did to be clear, not endorse suicide. Suicide came much later. But there was over a decade where basically they had seen at least suicide as a possibility. Also, I think the leaders believed it. And I think that that really marks this group maybe and not as unique.

But this is not a case where you had charlatans in charge. I think the founders really fundamentally believed what they were preaching. And I think that was clear to the members, even ex-members who left the group. And there are still ex-members around who I've spoken with and talked to. By and large, I believe that this is legit and that the founders believed in it.

But this is not a case where you had charlatans in charge. I think the founders really fundamentally believed what they were preaching. And I think that was clear to the members, even ex-members who left the group. And there are still ex-members around who I've spoken with and talked to. By and large, I believe that this is legit and that the founders believed in it.

But this is not a case where you had charlatans in charge. I think the founders really fundamentally believed what they were preaching. And I think that was clear to the members, even ex-members who left the group. And there are still ex-members around who I've spoken with and talked to. By and large, I believe that this is legit and that the founders believed in it.

In the 1970s, there were certainly struggles. And partially that was because there was almost no cohesive leadership. T. and Doe founded the group. But then they actually didn't take a lot of control. So they told members to sort of try to get with the program, which was to abandon their humanity.

In the 1970s, there were certainly struggles. And partially that was because there was almost no cohesive leadership. T. and Doe founded the group. But then they actually didn't take a lot of control. So they told members to sort of try to get with the program, which was to abandon their humanity.

In the 1970s, there were certainly struggles. And partially that was because there was almost no cohesive leadership. T. and Doe founded the group. But then they actually didn't take a lot of control. So they told members to sort of try to get with the program, which was to abandon their humanity.

So you had to abandon sexuality, you had to abandon drugs and alcohol, had to disconnect from your birth family, had to quit your job, had to try to attune yourself to the next level. Aber sie erzählten niemandem, wie man das tun kann. Es gab Leute, die zu Campgrounds gingen und sagten, ich weiß nicht, wie man das tun kann.

So you had to abandon sexuality, you had to abandon drugs and alcohol, had to disconnect from your birth family, had to quit your job, had to try to attune yourself to the next level. Aber sie erzählten niemandem, wie man das tun kann. Es gab Leute, die zu Campgrounds gingen und sagten, ich weiß nicht, wie man das tun kann.