Benny Brooks

So we were really thinking about this in a crawl, walk, run way.

So we just were kind of saying to ourselves,

we need to be doing more research.

That's just the world that we're in right now.

So that was the first thing that we wanted to measure.

And the really cool thing is, in 2024, we created and executed and completed 83 research stories.

2025, when we kind of kicked off this whole thing, we created and executed 201 research stories.

So we're essentially doing more than double the amount of research.

And I think like for us,

like the next horizon, you know, maybe part of like the like the walk in the run aspect of the crawl walk run is like just the quantity of user stories doesn't really speak to quality and efficiency.

Right.

So now we're starting to think about, all right, how do we measure like quality and efficiency and just get like better data now that we have confidence that we're just doing more research as part of the new mandate?

So.

The really cool thing is now we are starting to see, when we first started, and I think you heard it all earlier, when we first started, we had a lot of anxiety about, hey, we're gonna pitch research or we have to like sell research, right?

So that was like a huge concern of ours,

What we're seeing now is we're starting to see research populated on other product leaders back my backlogs that we then need to create a plan for in our backlogs and where it's less of a push and like more of a pull.

Right.

So like we're now we're talking about articulating actors needs jobs to be done for people who are like asking for it.

And that's like a huge thing for us.

Right.