Bernard Jackman

Our teams can't live with them at that.

Now, as I said, Bordeaux stood up really well to that physicality that Bath brought, that Toulouse brought.

And actually in the last quarter of both those games, the others looked to be punch drunk, which is very rare to see.

So there's a huge amount of cohesion in what Bordeaux do.

I think Bordeaux are more likely to change what they do

attack wise than Leinster are okay um I think that they'll have seen the teams who've done well against Leinster Northampton um last year um on kick uh on kick return uh and also on constantly changing the point of the point of attack so go go left go right go left go right until eventually you create a

an overload and then go exploit that.

Or La Rochelle, who kind of went through the middle a lot and went close around the breakdown.

And, you know, the difference, the challenge for Leinster is that with Lukaku and Jalibert's footballing ability and awareness and ability to put little grubber kicks, chips over the top,

That's an area that Leinster, in fairness, every defence system has a weakness.

That is the weakness in that defence system.

And obviously, out wide, if you control a lot of bodies at that last defender, it's a much more difficult decision for him.

So that'll be there.

But you don't want to give Leinster what I thought Toulon gave them, Ospreys gave them, Lyons gave them, where you're actually running into the heart of where Leinster are strong.

So...

I thought us players were unbelievably naive at the weekend in terms of trying to get to that 13 channel too early and Leinster just absolutely hoovered it up so I don't think Bordeaux will be that naive and I think no McNamara he'll have he'll have a body of work there of teams that have kind of

being really pragmatic, being really specific in what they attack off.

And it's going to be a huge chest for Nina Barr's defense because I think they'll be well-drilled, but also they have individuals like Penno and I mentioned Jaliber.

And then they have, you know, forwards who have...

as a front five in particular, the likes of Adam Coleman, Lamotte, the hooker, top end players.