Bernard Jackman

So it's certainly... There's so many threats in that Bordeaux team.

They're not the exact same as France.

They have their own wrinkles, but it's the same profile of players, speed, athleticism, vision, and creativity.

We could have an unbelievable post-Christmas.

So November was difficult enough.

But to be fair, the way Ireland...

bounce back, get a kick, a brilliant Ramos kick of winning the Six Nations, you know, and that's rejuvenation.

A 20s team who really stood up.

Potentially we could have four provinces in the Champions Cup.

Now I know Conor would have to win the URC because obviously Ulster would have to win it to get in.

But technically we could still have four provinces in the Champions Cup next year.

And if that happens, we have a Challenge Cup winner and we could have a Champions Cup winner.

It's brilliant.

As you say, put your Irish cap on.

The more these lads get used to winning big knockout games, whether it's in an Ulster jersey, Munster jersey, Connacht jersey...

or Leinster Jersey the better it'll be when we get to knockout rugby for Ireland you know and that's the big challenge it certainly won't be easy for Andy Farrell if the vast majority of his team are used to winning knockout rugby Do you agree Johnny?

He was a good player.

Southland initially, then Highlanders.

Then he went to London Irish for six or seven years.

I would have came across him in London Irish.