Bernie Sanders

But scientists don't agree.

This is where it gets confusing.

Because scientists that are in agreement...

There's all these entanglements whenever someone's discussing something, whether it's economics or whether it's health issues or pharmaceutical drugs, there's financial entanglements.

I think we both agree with that, right?

And I think this is part of the issue with this whole climate change emergency as well, because it's not just that we could all agree pollution is a major factor.

It's a huge issue in the world today.

We could all agree with that, right?

I think one of the things that we have to recognize is that whenever there's an issue that everyone can agree on, you're going to have a bunch of people that capitalize on that issue and they look to gain more money.

They have financial issues that they push forward in order to capitalize on this issue, but then also power and control.

These things like they're trying to institute in the UK where they have these 15-minute cities, this concept, where you're not allowed to travel.

They'll be able to look at your carbon footprint.

It's – yeah, see?

That's the problem.

The problem is giving people that are in power –

These people that we've all discussed that have so much money and so much control over our societies, multinational corporations, giving them more control over citizens.

And this is a vehicle for that.

And this is what's dangerous about this whole climate change emergency.

Because it allows these fucking creeps that have been controlling people and controlling what you do and what you say and how you spend your money with people that already live in check to check.

And you put additional constraints on them and you make them even more scared.