Bertie Gregory

We're part of this incredible life support system that's free and it provides us with all these ecosystem services that we completely take for granted.

So selfishly, we should want to look after the natural world

because it's to protect ourselves.

If we can look after the environment and make sure that wild systems are healthy, we make them more resilient, they can then better protect us from the effects of climate change or whatever the thing may be.

Look at all of the big sort of pandemics that have happened.

Most of them come from the mistreatment of domestic animals or wild animals.

It's us being very naughty.

And unsurprisingly, bad things happen when you're naughty.

Yeah, it's an interesting perspective.

I guess what I would say is that evolution happens on very slow timescales.

And what is different about what we are doing now, we are in, you know, in history, there have been these mass extinction events.

Yeah.

and we're now in one.

When the rate of extinction goes up incredibly high, there's sort of this big purge.

And I think with humans, we often talk about wanting to save the world when actually in the long term, world, the planet, it's going to be just fine.

It's just whether or not we exist or whether we exist on a place that's actually nice to be.

We're not just sort of

Well, I mean, yes, they're spending more time.

Many polar bears spend part of the year on the sea ice when the ocean's frozen.

And then in the summertime when the ice melts, they spend the time on land sort of hanging out.