Beth Karras

They did believe that there was a nanny, Zanny the nanny.

They did believe that.

So it's very curious.

Like where where was this little girl?

Like, was she accompanying Casey?

And where was Casey going?

She wasn't working prior to the 30 days.

That's prior, but even during the 30 day period.

Everything she relates.

But Cindy, Casey's mother, is really getting frustrated because she's you know, she wants to see her granddaughter.

She needs to see proof.

The two of them had fought, as I said, the day before Father's Day that night they had fought.

And, you know, there was some talk about, you know, Cindy saying, if you don't get in better shape as a, you know, take care of this child, you know, I'm going to file to adopt her.

Let me say, though, that at trial, there was the only evidence about Casey as a mother was good evidence.

Like she was a very doting, good mother.

However, Cindy may have begged to differ only because I think that that Kaylee was left with her grandmother a lot, that Casey was gone, especially closer in time to when the child disappeared because Casey had a new boyfriend and it was sort of a new life.

And he was working at a club and it was kind of a new life.

And she maybe she wanted her freedom.

That was part of the process.

Correct.