Beth Lyons

I still have PTSD about Higgs fields when we did the Higgs field demos.

So it kind of depends on what you're comparing to because this is messy, but this is not like, you're in Las Vegas, everybody, and there's so much happening.

Yeah.

And that's a good point because also built into that is if you are in a position where the way you're working with AI, you don't want to be at the whim of a new model.

You want the API.

Yeah.

The API you're subscribed to is, you know, September 25th, 2025, right?

Like that doesn't, they don't update that.

Your stuff stays like that.

I mean, they update it eventually, but they don't, they don't drop it just like, sorry, oops, everybody.

We apparently broke everybody's chat GPT interface in this kind of way.

So I feel like,

The API is both technical and also meeting needs that non-technical people have as well.

They're just, yeah.

And I feel like that's one of the reasons that AI Studio and the platform interface and the console for Claude, that those things are actually slightly technical, more technical interfaces, but you don't have to know how to do an API call in code.

I feel certain we're going to start seeing videos of people answering phone calls from Google and like, stop calling me.

So Andy and I were talking about digital twins last week and we we went sort of very high level with like big companies that are doing this like for like industry knowledge management or like your entire corpus of

At the CREATE conference, Cindy Kuhn actually shared part of what she does.

And also, Anne, you had mentioned Katie Dunn, right?

Do you want to take it from there?