Beth Macy

And I was like, what?

Are you kidding me?

So I...

I invited one of the people that he said who we both knew out for coffee.

And sure enough, he wasn't wrong.

And, you know, I was just like listening to her say Tom Hanks is a pedophile.

Michelle Obama is a trans woman, you know, just on and on with this crazy stuff.

And she would say, you didn't get the vaccine, did you?

Oh, no, you did.

And the COVID vaccine.

And, yeah.

I started to think my family's not so crazy after all.

Like the other person that I reconnected with was a ex-boyfriend named Bill that I hadn't seen in 38 years.

And I decided to interview him because a mutual friend had said he had gone from being the most liberal person we knew to spending four to seven hours a day, uh,

on the internet looking at Russian propaganda.

And that was a fascinating story.

So I started meeting with him.

I probably spent 10 hours.

I probably have 10 hours of recordings with him.

And just to see the progression, he went from Bernie to Jill Stein and