Beth Macy

I mean, when she said that she didn't believe George Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin, you know, I guess she believed that he had a little fentanyl in his system and that's what did it.

It wasn't a police murder.

You know, at one point she says that children are identifying as cats and taking litter boxes to school.

And I just kind of like leaned back in my chair and rolled my eyes and she goes,

I know.

But how do we still love each other beyond what we can't understand or agree with?

And that's where we are.

How do we love beyond now in this nation?

One in five families are estranged because of politics.

There was a piece in The New York Times last week in The Daily where they did a survey showing that 64% of Americans think we're too divided to be able to solve any of our problems and that our divisions actually are a bigger concern now

than the economy.

I mean, that's where we are now.

I had no idea that's where we would be when I started this project.

And I'm still very close to Joy.

I mean, she's a lay minister.

She conducted my mom's funeral.

I love her.

She and her parents, her parents were both educators.

She gave me a ride to school every day.

I wouldn't be who I am without her.