Beth Martens

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10,628 appearances 11 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 10 Jul

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that as a meditator, you know, right, that y you you become vigilant with your own thoughts.

Absolutely.

And I have had the pleasure of working with Micah Ellers, who's introduced to me this concept of false personalities.

Are you into Gurdjieff's work at all?

Okay.

Good.

And uh so yeah, the concept of false personalities being that in a way, none of the thoughts are our own.

Like Gurdjieff would say we don't have any real thoughts.

We're only having the scripts and the slogans of all of these this could be legion of false personalities.

Uh i I I inherited the work of Lester Levinson and that's simplified down into programs so that it's not you're not

Yes, there are thousands of false personalities, but at least there's a discrete number of archetypal programs to work with.

But I'm in that I'm getting more and more in the habit of when when I hear something, it's like who said that?

And I want to trace back and it's like, Okay, show yourself I'm available and they're like, Oh, I'm out of here.

I don't

Because they don't want to be seen.

That's the end of them when they're when you truly see them for what they are.

Right.

If you if you consciously make it so, that that is completely true.

It won't happen by itself.

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