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Beth Shapiro

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

You shouldn't just discount it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I mean, I'm the person who has tested insulation that somebody told me Bigfoot peed on and participated in it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

Because if it's real, I want to be the person who finds it, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

So Bridget says this guy who lives down in the coast of Louisiana sent her a picture of an animal that she's like, that is not a wolf and it is not a coyote and I don't know what it is and it's crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And she looked at it and she goes, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

It's something else.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

It's something in between those.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And so she tested it and found that it has a ton of DNA ancestry from red wolves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And they're hybridized a little bit with coyotes, but all red wolves are hybridized a little bit with coyotes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

Canids are always hybridizing with each other.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

We know that because there are wolves that are black because black gene for wolves got into the wolf population because a domestic dog...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

had his way with a wolf in heat, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And that's how that allele got into that population.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

So we know canids do this all the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And she was like, this is so cool because this captive breeding population was established with just a few founder individuals.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And the team working with them are doing a great job trying to maximize genetic diversity by picking who's going to pair with who to keep all that diversity there.