Beth Shapiro

But it's still just a few individuals.

So they are going to lose genetic diversity.

It's just how it works.

Right.

But if we can bring other individuals in from this population, that's a way of concentrating more diversity, better able to pick which parts are red wolf, either by breeding individuals or by editing their DNA, which is technology that we developed on the path to dire wolf, right?

And we can actually help this population to survive.

So there are ways that we can do this for mammals that are going to have really amazing consequences for the way we can protect biodiversity.

Right.

Because we have never, as a species, humans, introduced a thing to try to control a thing.

And that thing that we introduced just went horribly wrong.

We've never done that before.

Right, Australia?

And in Hawaii, they have these giant African land snails.

Oh, yeah.

That they introduced this thing called a rosy wolf snail that they were going to get to eat the giant African land snails.

But instead, the rosy wolf snail prefers the taste of native endemic Hawaiian snails.

And so the rosy wolf snail is leaving the giant snails alone there.

And they're big.

Have you seen one of those?

A giant African land snail.