Bethenny Frankel

Oh yeah.

Like my, the podcast for me is like a tertiary, not even.

Yours is TikTok.

Mine is like social media brand, yeah, and brands and things like that, just being myself, because that to me is the reality show.

So that's my, people in 2025 are saying like, when are you gonna go back on TV?

And I get offered shows all the time.

I'm like, I am on TV.

It's less money.

Less bulk.

Yeah, exactly.

Only young people understand that, so.

In hiring recently a chief creative officer and a president of production for content, I met with a lot of the people from the talk shows, like the big talk shows, like the Ellen, the Views, whatever.

They are dinosaurs.

They don't understand.

I asked a couple of them, like, what are you loving on social media right now?

They really couldn't, oh, there's a woman who makes Italian food.

They couldn't really give an answer.

And I'm like, oh, you don't live there.

Oh, wait, you don't really get it.

Yes, because I don't like bulk and I don't like traffic control and I like doing it myself.