Bethenny Frankel

But that's very niche and nuanced, too.

I know.

You know, I just think it's so gangster that like, Taylor, the one, so listen, I'm a business person first.

So when you ask me about being a fan of Taylor and all these things, and I'm agnostic, I love that it's a realm.

And whoever, I think it's that publicist, she was like that blonde publicist.

Tree Payne.

Whoever she, that woman is running the not fucking around crew.

So what's interesting to me is the gatekeeping, the realm protecting, the guardian, like,

That woman, like Blake Lively, can just be just frickin' exonerated.

I mean, not exonerated.

What's it called?

But when you get out of the church, excommunicated.

That woman, Blake Lively, who I've always loved and thought is interesting and such a popular girl, was just completely excommunicated from the church, just banished from the kingdom.

I know.

So now this one must have done something too.

You would think, yes.

But Miles Teller's a big get.

No, you're saying they could get anyone?

What's your theory?

You have to have a theory.