Betsy Stevenson

Yes. Yeah, you could be unemployed.

Yes. Yeah, you could be unemployed.

Yes. Yeah, you could be unemployed.

And that's going to trickle down to you, whoever you are in your job.

And that's going to trickle down to you, whoever you are in your job.

And that's going to trickle down to you, whoever you are in your job.

Although Trump would say that's just not yet. But, you know, I know what you mean.

Although Trump would say that's just not yet. But, you know, I know what you mean.

Although Trump would say that's just not yet. But, you know, I know what you mean.

Better than you do, yeah, I guess.

Better than you do, yeah, I guess.

Better than you do, yeah, I guess.

Right. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. I'm going to summarize this conversation. It's a teeny, teeny bit better than it was a day ago, but we are definitely not out of crisis yet. Is that fair?

Right. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. I'm going to summarize this conversation. It's a teeny, teeny bit better than it was a day ago, but we are definitely not out of crisis yet. Is that fair?

Right. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. I'm going to summarize this conversation. It's a teeny, teeny bit better than it was a day ago, but we are definitely not out of crisis yet. Is that fair?

Okay. Thanks, Justin.

Okay. Thanks, Justin.

Okay. Thanks, Justin.

That's okay. This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West and edited by Claudina Bade. It was engineered by Rob Smirciak. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

That's okay. This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West and edited by Claudina Bade. It was engineered by Rob Smirciak. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.