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Beverly Gooden

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51 total appearances

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It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

We often have a hard time believing that someone we hold in high esteem could be abusive. That and more after this quick break.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, the dynamics of abuse are really complex. I think one of the things I always talk about is that we're talking about human hearts here and we're talking about human hearts in distress. You know, I think just bringing it back to that really basic level, things can be confusing. You may want your partner to change or you think you can change them.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, the dynamics of abuse are really complex. I think one of the things I always talk about is that we're talking about human hearts here and we're talking about human hearts in distress. You know, I think just bringing it back to that really basic level, things can be confusing. You may want your partner to change or you think you can change them.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, the dynamics of abuse are really complex. I think one of the things I always talk about is that we're talking about human hearts here and we're talking about human hearts in distress. You know, I think just bringing it back to that really basic level, things can be confusing. You may want your partner to change or you think you can change them.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Just things like that that happen in most relationships, right? Add to that the dynamic of abuse. And abusive relationships aren't violent all the time. There are lives, laughs, and loves, right? I married my ex because I loved him. We had fun. We had beautiful moments and things felt good a lot.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Just things like that that happen in most relationships, right? Add to that the dynamic of abuse. And abusive relationships aren't violent all the time. There are lives, laughs, and loves, right? I married my ex because I loved him. We had fun. We had beautiful moments and things felt good a lot.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Just things like that that happen in most relationships, right? Add to that the dynamic of abuse. And abusive relationships aren't violent all the time. There are lives, laughs, and loves, right? I married my ex because I loved him. We had fun. We had beautiful moments and things felt good a lot.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So I stayed with him because I hoped we could get back to that version of us before the violence started. And so other people stay for different reasons, financial stability, children, fear, right? Sometimes it's because they've been threatened or their children have been threatened.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So I stayed with him because I hoped we could get back to that version of us before the violence started. And so other people stay for different reasons, financial stability, children, fear, right? Sometimes it's because they've been threatened or their children have been threatened.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So I stayed with him because I hoped we could get back to that version of us before the violence started. And so other people stay for different reasons, financial stability, children, fear, right? Sometimes it's because they've been threatened or their children have been threatened.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

And I think if you don't understand course of control, it's really easy to miss how abuse can show up in quiet ways that make it hard to leave.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

And I think if you don't understand course of control, it's really easy to miss how abuse can show up in quiet ways that make it hard to leave.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

And I think if you don't understand course of control, it's really easy to miss how abuse can show up in quiet ways that make it hard to leave.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, something Lori said earlier that I think is really important is that the defense is banking on the fact that the rest of us may not understand the type of relationship that they have. And kink is not abuse, right? Like if you're in a relationship that participates in kink, then there is enthusiastic consent involved. From all parties.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, something Lori said earlier that I think is really important is that the defense is banking on the fact that the rest of us may not understand the type of relationship that they have. And kink is not abuse, right? Like if you're in a relationship that participates in kink, then there is enthusiastic consent involved. From all parties.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

Yeah, something Lori said earlier that I think is really important is that the defense is banking on the fact that the rest of us may not understand the type of relationship that they have. And kink is not abuse, right? Like if you're in a relationship that participates in kink, then there is enthusiastic consent involved. From all parties.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So we don't have to understand the details of these relationships to know that consent was not obtained here and consent should never be implied. Right. And so when it comes to the public's reaction and how this works. trickles down into the public, I find this sort of thing thrives where there is love or admiration involved, whether that's Diddy or your cousin, a family member or a friend.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So we don't have to understand the details of these relationships to know that consent was not obtained here and consent should never be implied. Right. And so when it comes to the public's reaction and how this works. trickles down into the public, I find this sort of thing thrives where there is love or admiration involved, whether that's Diddy or your cousin, a family member or a friend.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

So we don't have to understand the details of these relationships to know that consent was not obtained here and consent should never be implied. Right. And so when it comes to the public's reaction and how this works. trickles down into the public, I find this sort of thing thrives where there is love or admiration involved, whether that's Diddy or your cousin, a family member or a friend.

It's Been a Minute
Diddy, Cassie, & the anatomy of "mutual abuse"

We often have a hard time believing that someone we hold in high esteem could be abusive, that the same hands that create art can also create terror. That's really hard to sit with. And I empathize with people who are working through that because I've been there.