Bhaskar Sunkara

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #349 – Bhaskar Sunkara: The Case for Socialism · 22 Dec 2022 podcast

But let's say you're a partner, you kind of have equity in your law firm or something beyond your billable hours.

And let's say you're going to be fired from your law firm or they're laying off people or whatever else.

They could just get rid of you, but they would also have to figure out how to kind of buy you out too after a certain point.

So I think that in a cooperative firm, you probably have a system where you, after a certain point of working productively, you probably have a period where you get fired really quickly, no matter what.

But once your job security kicks in, you would be able to... It would be a process.

It would probably be like...

a day or two process to figure it out.

Or maybe they would have a progressive discipline process, which is first, you have to get a verbal feedback, and then maybe a written performance review, then you could be fired.

I mean, that's how it works in a lot of workplaces with either unions or with just basic job security.

In most countries, that's how it works, because there's not at will employment in most countries.

So I think that

The real tension is if you fire someone, if you're condemning them to destitution, then morally, you'd really feel something there, as you should as a human being concerned about other people.

But in a social system or even basic social democratic system, there'd be mechanisms to take care of that person.

So one, if a firm is failing for any reason, they're getting out-compete or whatever else,

those workers would then lend in the hands, just for a little bit, of the state, right?

And there could be active labor market policies to retrain people to go into expanding sectors, or your sector is now obsolete, but here, you have these skills, you're going to be

trained and here are some resources to kind of help you along your training.

And then there's a bunch of firms hiring.

So go on your way.

And then also just with an expanded welfare state, being destitute in certain countries, being unemployed in certain countries is easier than in other countries or situations.

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