Bhaskar Sunkara
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first heard Dec 2022
last heard Dec 2022
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based on the experiences of cooperatives, we've seen that they can.
And then at the state level, state bureaucracies have their own sort of sets of incentives.
But in most systems that already have extensive state bureaucracies,
These people at high levels are appointed or elected.
They're held to certain standards at the national level.
A national government wants to maintain, you know, the tax revenue that they need to pay for services.
So we already, I think, have incentive structures that you could say that.
Some people might just, I think, disagree with the normative thing of like, why would people have to own their own means of production, control their workplaces or whatever else?
Why do we need this level of equality?
Can't we just get by with our existing system, but just like...
make things a little bit easier for capitalists to make money, then everyone will benefit, whatever else.
I mean, that's a normative question.
In my vision of socialism, there'll be plenty of, you know, multiple parties with different views and perspectives trying to either push us deeper into more radical forms of socialism, or on the other hand, to kind of roll back to, you know, more capitalist forms of government.
So I think that, again, you
You can't try to make up a perfect system and try to implement it.
You have to, you know, do it as a process democratically and so on.
So I don't wanna fight the hypothetical.
So I'll say equality.
I am concerned with equality, but I don't think the two are necessarily always in tension.
But also when you think about all the great things that human beings have produced,
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