Bhaskar Sunkara

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Now, for me, now that we've won those rights, a lot of our battle for change needs to go beyond the representational realm and needs to really reground itself in the material bread and butter struggles of ordinary people trying to survive the battle for change.
good health care for all Americans and so on.
These are my immediate demands.
I think there's a segment of American liberalism that doesn't want to go in that confrontational economic direction and wants to scare it away from battles over things like universal health care and so on, and really are just still caught at this battle over rights and representation.
And it's devolved in such a way that they feel like they need to make change.
The way they make change is only through interventions and culture because they don't really have the same sense of class and class struggle that agree or disagree with it.
It's a very material plane.
So instead, you know, they look at comedians who said the wrong thing or they look at, um,
and all sorts of other ways to make change.
It's not really making a change is just making them look bad and making our culture worse.
And, um, I think that where that's where a lot of it comes from, but I think that a lot of, uh, the left, even the left, that's much more into battles over, um,
you know, race and lots of other stuff, like real serious anti-racist on the left.
Of course, I'm an anti-racist, but a lot of my work is focused on the primacy of class.
But even these people are very concerned about material struggles and issues, and they don't really care about, you know,
these issues they think are ephemeral kind of issues.
Exactly, because anti-racism was really about the struggle of people for...
equal rights and voting.
It was about the struggle for people who were trapped into bad neighborhoods because they couldn't get decent jobs and their neighborhoods were redlined or whatever else.
It was really like a struggle for survival.
And what was the main demands, like the language of this?
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