Bill Cohan

We can speculate in it.

So, Bill, you're a smart guy.

What are you doing this for?

Don't you have other better things to do?

I mean, I had a 90-minute interview with Sam Bankman Freed at the height of his power and wealth.

And you can see that none of that is in the film.

So this went on for like a year and a half, and we're kind of getting nowhere.

And we're thinking, okay, are we going to get nowhere with this?

Is this going to be, you know, have I just wasted a year and a half of useless exercise, of futility?

And then it occurred to us we needed the guy to my left or my right, you know, on this film.

We needed Tyler.

We needed a private investigator.

who had skills that could go beyond, you know, the skills in the dark arts and really sort of understanding, not in the nefarious dark arts, but just beyond what, you know, a typical investigative journalist, you know, could do to try to, okay,

Here's all the people we've talked to, Tyler.

We're not really getting anywhere with them.

They're very nice.

We're having nice interviews.

I'm learning a lot.

I mean, Michael Saylor is probably the most captivating person I've ever interviewed.

I mean, he's just like mesmerizing.