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Bill Gurley

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And some of the LPs that I talked to, this is fairly unusual, they've traded in and out of Stripe.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And the company's somewhat comfortable with it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And that's very new and unique in our world.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Correct.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

More like the old pink sheet trade by appointment thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

We're about to dive into all that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I want to mention one thing that I think is fairly interesting and intuitive once you hear it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But those investors that are encouraging that behavior, I think there's another element that's going on here.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

If you think about a traditional IPO, the thing I hate maybe more than anything, as you already know.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

The bank's going to be very deliberate on their allocations.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So if a company were going public, a, let's just say, large public investor and private investor, firm X, puts in for an allocation, what do they tip?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They oversubscribe by 100X, and they may get 1% or 2% of the offering.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They're not going to get 30%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And when these firms go to a company like Databricks or Stripe or whoever and encourage this round, they can get 30%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So they can get a bigger ownership percentage than they would get through a traditional IPO process.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And in fact, they share a lot of these deals.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So kind of an oligopic opportunity there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

to hoard the public IPO growth years and take it away from the public markets.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So we all know Amazon went public less than a billion dollars and then traded over a trillion.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And the public market had access to all those great years of compounding.