Bill Kristol

They weren't going out being grandstanders, to be fair, right?

And they're giving press avails, whatever they do, press conferences over there.

They're asked the question.

They gave honest and I thought rather thoughtful and eloquent answers, really.

I mean, they distinguished the country from the Trump administration, basically.

So they weren't just saying America's a horrible place because we have a horrible president.

They went out of their way to do that.

I sort of admire them.

And as you say, the key point is, I mean, they could decline to answer the question, I suppose, but you don't see the Saudis or the Russians or the Iranians or the Chinese doing a lot of this.

And you know what?

I'm glad the Americans are doing it.

So no, I'm totally with you.

And MAGA world and Trump himself, the grievance culture, it is really insane, right?

I mean, they just want to be offended by stuff

Yeah, they love to complain.

It's so much at the heart of what they are.

I guess I've sort of underestimated that, I think, maybe over the years.

They're running the country.

They're stealing tens of billions of dollars.

They're beating up and killing, not to make light of it, people who are protesting against them.