Bill Kristol

Right?

I mean, think of the military.

Think what the military did when they found out about things.

Removing people, trials, court-martials, people Trump, of course, later pardoned, who now have high positions in excess defense department.

But still, they did their best to discipline these people.

There's not even a pretense of any of that now with Border Patrol and ICE.

So it's really bad.

It's bad for civil liberties, as I've been obsessing about for the last week or so.

It's very bad for 2026 and the threats it poses to free and fair elections.

So very bad.

We talked about that.

They need to be tough on the Hill.

They need to not obsess about every detail, as you were saying, you know, about the masks, this, and the body cameras, that.

Look, they should fight all those fights.

But they need to basically curb ICE and Border Patrol as much and as thoroughly as possible.

You're on one of the lawyer texts, and I am.

Mine is simple, that if you step back and say, if Trump's not going to do well in the midterms, which I don't think he is, the Republicans aren't, what can they do?

Well, they can put their thumb on the scale.

What's the best institution to put the thumb on the scale?

There are a bunch of things they can try, obviously.