Bill Landis

And maybe that's just how you have to be when you're a new guy doing your first press conference in a new place.

I don't know, but I like,

I don't know that you can draw like two, two straight of a line from like sort of how a coach interacts with the media to how they might connect with their players.

But I think you can draw a little bit of a parallel, just like, how does this guy communicate?

And I felt like that was really impressive from, from Cortez.

I think it's like, I talking to him, I understand why every receiver who's had an opportunity to talk thus far.

I said like, we like this guy a lot.

Yep.

So I think that's not the only, whatever.

uh, marker of success for, for a coach.

He's got to recruit.

He's got to develop all that stuff and we'll see.

I think he will.

I think he gets it.

Um, and I, I,

I didn't know what the world would feel like, I guess, after Ohio State lost Brian Hartline.

And then we talked to Cortez Hankton one time.

And like you said, I walked away.

I was like, they're fine.

They'll be all right.