Bill Landis

And guys say that all the time.

Coaches say it all the time.

Like we'll find our best 11 guys and then we'll build a defense or an offense around them.

We want our best 11 guys on the field.

And James said, it's not just, these are our best 11 anymore.

And he's talking about finding roles for guys.

So he said, we want to find out who we can depend on.

And then we want to find roles for them.

Yeah.

So when we did our big depth show on the Substack on Wednesday, we said we think they could go six linebackers deep potentially.

The idea was how many guys could maybe Ohio State feel like they can depend on at a position by September, by October.

We said six at linebacker.

And James said, I'd like to go five or six deep.

Or we might go too deep if the guys can't prove it.

But he said Matt Patricia is good at finding roles for guys and what they do well.

But then I don't think we saw that last year because they had three guys who did everything well.

And we've talked about this previously, that they were almost playing different positions.

But when you splice that up, I'm super curious in the linebacker room how that gets spliced up because...

Like we were just saying, well, Christian Allegro is like Arvel Rees in this way, but Riley Pettijohn might be like Arvel Rees in this way, and Garrett Stover might be like Arvel Rees in this way, right?

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