Bill Maher

That's morals.

You think they fucking care about morals?

But how could they tell themselves that?

I would argue it was his web presence, which was very orchestrated, right, to make him seem like a rich guy who had gotten into some trouble, came back to you.

He had people actively working to build that persona.

I've spent some time in his files, and I'll tell you, if his representation online had been closer to the reality,

Maybe I'm naive, but I like to think it would have been harder for him to pull so many people around him as layers of protection.

I would totally agree with that.

Okay.

So we're in agreement.

Yeah, we're in agreement.

But what about the other folks around him that visited his island that clearly do not fall into the category that you're talking about?

I can't wrap my head around that.

Like who?

I mean...

I mean, Clinton supposedly spent time with him.

I mean, he supposedly spent time with him, right?

But he's not a dweeb, right?

No, but... Or let's say, as long as we're coming up with examples, I mean, you've got to be really careful here.

I just think... Some of the folks that sat down to dinners with him, right?