Bill Maris

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608 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 9 Jun

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Well, let's speak for those 99% who are mostly not us, right?

So those 401ks, those retirement plans,

to get into those companies now, which are getting bizarre exceptions to S&P 500 rules.

All of the rules are being broken.

The passive funds, the ETFs are going to have to pick them up.

And where do you think we are on that curve of value creation?

Could they go 3x from here?

Sure, but... So the...

There's a lot of risk in that and my objection is don't say you're doing this for the benefit of humanity and do the other thing.

Or just say, this is how we're running our business, and this isn't for the benefit of humanity.

I mean, one, that's how venture is, right?

75% of funds lose money.

But two, in order for founders fund or pick any fund to get that $100 billion out, they have to sell that stock to someone else.

Otherwise, it's just on paper.

So who's the buyer for that?

Is it retail?

You've got to make a business case in the public market

that can show that this business is worth the discounted value of its future cash flows.

And so whether it's SpaceX or Anthropic or so forth, can that case be made?

We'll see six months after or so.

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