Bill Maris

But there's research going on in China and other places, experiments and cloning and all sorts of things that, as far as I know, aren't happening here.

But there's research going on in China and other places, experiments and cloning and all sorts of things that, as far as I know, aren't happening here.

Yes, and I think the gutting of the CDC and the NIH and an anti-science vibe that now pervades this country has driven a lot of mindshare elsewhere as funding is drying up for basic research.

Yes, and I think the gutting of the CDC and the NIH and an anti-science vibe that now pervades this country has driven a lot of mindshare elsewhere as funding is drying up for basic research.

We really need the neurological reserves here.

We really need the neurological reserves here.

And this business with...

And this business with...

Yes, that as well.

Yes, that as well.

But the pushing out of H1B holders, there's so much happening now that it's causing, it's just easier to go elsewhere.

But the pushing out of H1B holders, there's so much happening now that it's causing, it's just easier to go elsewhere.

That's not good for science.

That's not good for science.

Absolutely, because things are moving so much faster.

Absolutely, because things are moving so much faster.

I mean, human biology and healthcare, it's probably the largest TAM in the world.

I mean, human biology and healthcare, it's probably the largest TAM in the world.

So super interested in that.

So super interested in that.