Bill McDonald

She exercised her right to speak, and actually she ended up, as time went on, tying herself in knots, because more and more times she was, well, I can't remember.

She exercised her right to speak, and actually she ended up, as time went on, tying herself in knots, because more and more times she was, well, I can't remember.

You start asking her about addresses that she lived at, she couldn't remember them. You started asking her about places that she went to, family, and she couldn't remember those either. And there were fundamental things like, well, you must remember where you lived. And then it was a question of, well, can you remember what school you went to?

You start asking her about addresses that she lived at, she couldn't remember them. You started asking her about places that she went to, family, and she couldn't remember those either. And there were fundamental things like, well, you must remember where you lived. And then it was a question of, well, can you remember what school you went to?

And she named an area that she'd gone to school, but she couldn't remember the name of the high school.

And she named an area that she'd gone to school, but she couldn't remember the name of the high school.

Something from her that, concretely, we could go and say, right, OK, that proves you are who you are purporting to be.

Something from her that, concretely, we could go and say, right, OK, that proves you are who you are purporting to be.

I had a sense that she'd been schooled and rehearsed on what she should say when she got into that situation. The cover story, although she was comfortable with it, as it turned out, was fairly limited. So she kept repeating it.

I had a sense that she'd been schooled and rehearsed on what she should say when she got into that situation. The cover story, although she was comfortable with it, as it turned out, was fairly limited. So she kept repeating it.

We were kind of up against a brick wall and clearly we weren't going to be going any further.

We were kind of up against a brick wall and clearly we weren't going to be going any further.

Our main interest was with him.

Our main interest was with him.

And then there's breaks in the interview process where, you know, refreshment breaks, comfort breaks or whatever.

And then there's breaks in the interview process where, you know, refreshment breaks, comfort breaks or whatever.

And I remember in one comfort break in front of his solicitor, David Davis kind of joyed me by suggesting that I should try harder or in some way I was going to have to up my game. And I... I can remember at the time that really sticking. The arrogance of somebody to say that in that situation.

And I remember in one comfort break in front of his solicitor, David Davis kind of joyed me by suggesting that I should try harder or in some way I was going to have to up my game. And I... I can remember at the time that really sticking. The arrogance of somebody to say that in that situation.

But then when the tape is running during the formal interview, you're back to that, you know, no comment. I'm sure psychologists and people would have a field day.

But then when the tape is running during the formal interview, you're back to that, you know, no comment. I'm sure psychologists and people would have a field day.