Bill Perkins

What was that? When I was younger, I had a stick Toyota that my mom had. It was her car. I was driving it. And my friend Pete Theibel. It's like, I want to drive the car. I want to teach him how to drive the car. I want to drive the car. I'm not supposed to drive the car. So anyway, long story short, he hits a gas instead of a clutch, spins the car out.

The back of it spins around, hits a telephone pole. Trump pops up. It has this big, giant dent. I'm like, holy shit. What am I going to do? So I tell my mom the story that we went to go get pizza and parked it and a truck must have hit it on the side or bumped it and went on. And that was my lie to my mom about this car that I felt guilty about.

The back of it spins around, hits a telephone pole. Trump pops up. It has this big, giant dent. I'm like, holy shit. What am I going to do? So I tell my mom the story that we went to go get pizza and parked it and a truck must have hit it on the side or bumped it and went on. And that was my lie to my mom about this car that I felt guilty about.

I said, one day I'm going to pay for this car in spades. That happened to my mom. And so one day I gave my mom $40,000 and I was like, mom, remember that time the car had that brown mark on it? We told you it was a truck. Well, this is what really happened. How did she react to that? She started laughing. She goes, I knew something was strange about that.

I said, one day I'm going to pay for this car in spades. That happened to my mom. And so one day I gave my mom $40,000 and I was like, mom, remember that time the car had that brown mark on it? We told you it was a truck. Well, this is what really happened. How did she react to that? She started laughing. She goes, I knew something was strange about that.

The story fit, but there was something strange about that. She just kind of laughed and was thankful that won. It was a great investment having that car beat up, but she just kind of laughed and we just reminisced about it.

The story fit, but there was something strange about that. She just kind of laughed and was thankful that won. It was a great investment having that car beat up, but she just kind of laughed and we just reminisced about it.

That he did that was kind of bold. You're talking about when Jason took the trip. So Jason... I don't know if our views were very thought out or just wired in, but I was head down. I got to make it. I got to become a trader. I got to have my head down. I'm saving money.

That he did that was kind of bold. You're talking about when Jason took the trip. So Jason... I don't know if our views were very thought out or just wired in, but I was head down. I got to make it. I got to become a trader. I got to have my head down. I'm saving money.

I'm really, at this point in my life, super diligent, trying to convince my boss to get on the bus program to save money, writing down every single nickel that I bought, et cetera. I'm really focused on my career trajectory. And Jason is like- Does Jason work at the same firm? He works at another firm. If you look at the old pictures, all the phone booths are right next to each other.

I'm really, at this point in my life, super diligent, trying to convince my boss to get on the bus program to save money, writing down every single nickel that I bought, et cetera. I'm really focused on my career trajectory. And Jason is like- Does Jason work at the same firm? He works at another firm. If you look at the old pictures, all the phone booths are right next to each other.

He's like right next to me, even though he's not at the same firm. We're all crowded into one area. And Jason's like, I'm going to go backpacking for you for a couple months. I'm like, what? How are you going to do that? Well, I'm going to borrow money from this guy who was a loan shark. And I'm like, wait, what? You're going to borrow money from this guy?

He's like right next to me, even though he's not at the same firm. We're all crowded into one area. And Jason's like, I'm going to go backpacking for you for a couple months. I'm like, what? How are you going to do that? Well, I'm going to borrow money from this guy who was a loan shark. And I'm like, wait, what? You're going to borrow money from this guy?

and you're going to go backpacking in Europe. I'm like, this is insane. This is insanity. My head is about to explode. I'm like, you're going to miss out. And what if they hire another screen clerk and your job's not there when you come back? And how are you going to pay this guy back if you don't pay him back? This is not like, oh, penalties and interest. This is like knees and ankles.

and you're going to go backpacking in Europe. I'm like, this is insane. This is insanity. My head is about to explode. I'm like, you're going to miss out. And what if they hire another screen clerk and your job's not there when you come back? And how are you going to pay this guy back if you don't pay him back? This is not like, oh, penalties and interest. This is like knees and ankles.

And so I just didn't get it. That experience, I wasn't thinking about like Die With Zero and certain experiences belong in a certain period of your life, et cetera. I was just ultimately on this autopilot of trying to be successful and make money at that time in my life. And Jason was like, I'm going backpacking. So he went, I stayed, he came back, had a screen clerking job.

And so I just didn't get it. That experience, I wasn't thinking about like Die With Zero and certain experiences belong in a certain period of your life, et cetera. I was just ultimately on this autopilot of trying to be successful and make money at that time in my life. And Jason was like, I'm going backpacking. So he went, I stayed, he came back, had a screen clerking job.

Different firm or same firm? Same firm. Wasn't that much noticeable different. I moved up a little bit, but it wasn't that noticeable different, but he came back richer and He came back with stories and experiences and romance and lifelong friends. In the beginning, I was kind of, oh, wow, maybe I missed out. Maybe I could have jumped in for a week, that type of thing.

Different firm or same firm? Same firm. Wasn't that much noticeable different. I moved up a little bit, but it wasn't that noticeable different, but he came back richer and He came back with stories and experiences and romance and lifelong friends. In the beginning, I was kind of, oh, wow, maybe I missed out. Maybe I could have jumped in for a week, that type of thing.

And as time went on, I really, really regretted not joining him on that trip. When it finally came time where like, I'm going to go Europe. I'm going to have this backpacking experience. I was too bougie. I had money. I wasn't going to go stay at youth hostels. I wasn't going to capture these trains. I was going to have an experience, but a different experience.