Bill Pulte

And it's startling to me that because you have one fed governor, you know, you try to make an excuse for it instead of saying this is wrong.

This is prosecuted every day of the week for other people.

A lot, a lot.

Sometimes I do multiple per day and certainly multiple per week.

And my agency, along with the inspector general in my agency, works hand in hand with the Department of Justice, has done it under the Biden administration, did it under the Obama administration, did it under the first Trump administration.

Mortgage fraud is prosecuted every day in this country.

And as long as I'm in this seat, we're going to continue to eradicate fraudsters wherever we find them.

I'm not sure I totally understand the question.

I mean, as a general matter, I believe that occupancy fraud is wrong.

I believe that when people sign a piece of paper and they go to a bank and they say that they represent to a bank that they're going to do something and then they do something different, I believe that that is bank fraud.

I believe that that potentially is wire fraud.

And I believe that that is, in the case of mortgages, often mortgage fraud.

So, you know, we have rules in this country.

And I just say this, you know,

What is the point of laws if they're not going to be followed in this country?

And if people don't like the laws that are on the books, well, then go and change the law.

But if we have laws and if I promised, which I did promise the Senate to uphold the laws and follow the law and the statute, we have to follow the law and the statute always.

Well, the president decided many years ago to not sell this asset.

It was one of the best decisions that's ever been done, in my opinion, from the presidency as it relates to assets that the U.S.

government has had.