Bill Wyman

That's such a good question.

What always happens to these things, it is surprising, of course, it's shocking just by definition.

And at the same time, just increasingly, I think we all sort of feel, uh-oh, here we go again.

We've seen this movie before.

As listeners probably know, though, the Washington Hilton is a very tragic place in American political history because that's where Ronald Reagan was nearly assassinated not too long after he took office in, I guess it was early 1981, right?

People might not know it's just a kilometer or two from the White House.

It's in basically downtown D.C.

It's a very distinctive curved hotel.

So in a weird way, it's not that surprising because it is a very high profile event.

This is the third sort of high profile sort of grand guignol one we've seen of Trump.

But a lot of these happen and they basically could happen any time American president is under under fire.

And boy, I'm sure it's the same in Australia, but it really wasn't that long ago that presidents could walk the streets.

You used to be able to drive.

I remember as a kid just driving right in front of the White House.

But of course, that street is now closed down.

And there used to be Harry Truman, which was what, in the late 1940s, early 1950s, used to go on a constitutional every morning with reporters.

So there was a time not too long ago when presidents actually moved about in a much more easy way.

Well, yes.

I mean, that's definitely true.

That's just what they do.