Billy Corgan

No, I know you don't.

Okay, great.

Thank you.

No, I just didn't want you to come out like this.

And... I guess maybe it's a question of credit or...

Yeah, I think I think that's the cool thing about your partnership.

You guys made a lot of great decisions that have held up really well.

And they were risky decisions.

They weren't decisions of a conservative perspective that when you started having hits, you actually went further.

I think that's what most people don't appreciate.

It's like when you're actually starting to have success, you're surrounded by people that would be totally cool with you just keep doing the same thing.

Yeah.

To actually risk and roll the dice and keep trying to expand who you are and what you're capable of.

That's real risk.

Yeah.

A few more things.

Thanks for indulging me.

We share someone in common, Jonas Aukerlund.

I worked with Jonas back in the day, and I know he's made your new documentary.

So at the time we're taping, this is actually coming out today, but by the time it airs, it'll be out.