Billy Corgan

It might have been Mickey.

Mickey Most might have been involved with them.

Do you know Mickey Most as a producer?

He's good on that rap.

Well, he was Donovan Yardbirds.

Yeah.

Animals.

It was a different world.

But the thing about Mickey Mouse, he was the first producer to figure out that a song was like a mini movie.

I don't know, but he had a lot of influence.

And I don't think people have connected the dots.

I think he had a lot of influence on the Beatles thinking that way because he started doing that before the Beatles started doing it.

Yeah, the song was like a mini movie.

So when you think of some of those great animal songs, it's like you're in a certain room.

It's not just the animals being the animals.

It's like they set the scenes.

Because you think about, you know, you're talking about four track recording.

Yeah.

So in order to achieve atmosphere, you've got maybe one or two chances to do it within the realm of a recording.

It's not like now where you can layer a bunch of sitters.