Billy Corgan

I was raised to believe if you're going to play guitar and you can't play like this... I got it.

And it's a word you're about to say.

I totally receive that.

The reason I'm even going down this rabbit hole is to say I think that's what people didn't understand about you, what motivated you as an artist, what motivated you and what you wanted to say.

Well, we had...

We had a ton of conversations about it at the time.

You basically said, and correct me if this strikes you as wrong.

Okay.

You acknowledged the shadow of the indie world on what you needed to navigate to get where you wanted to go.

Yeah.

At the same time saying, I know there are a bunch of pricks, but that's just the way it is.

We got there eventually.

That goes back to my class traitor.

Why were they so mad at Dylan?

Let me tell you a story and see if you remember this story.

Okay.

We were both in London together.

We were in a relationship at the time.

Good times.

I hadn't yet outgrown my parochial, you know, Roman Catholic sort of stodginess.