Billy Corgan

I mean, you go to Hot Topic, you can, but I think like it pretty much started with you.

I'm not saying it was all your ideas, but you're the sort of, you opened that door to America because I can't think of anybody else who kind of brought that stylistic feel into the country.

Yeah, he had a big... He had that one kind of two, three years where it was really big and then it just kind of... Yeah, and then he didn't seem to... He didn't keep coming to America.

At the worst time possible.

Yeah.

Was that, in your mind, I'm not saying you didn't have your own personal sense of style, but was it the Westwood influence?

Or like, what for you was... Yeah, it was just mixing a load of stuff.

We brought leather back.

It was a bad period for fashion.

You had the jean suit.

Who did you, who were your glam, give me, because I'm curious on that, who, who were the glam guys that you, or girls that you looked up to?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that we have the hindsight of time, people talk about the MTV era because it's still going, but music is no longer part of that equation.

So let's say early-ish 80s to peak, maybe early 2000s.

Yeah.

You know, obviously people made videos in the UK and that was part of the music business.

But the art of the video, your ability to both become kind of, I always call them avatars.

You know, it's like you almost create this character.

It's like there's Billy Idol in the video and there's Steve Stevens in the video.