Billy Corgan

And again, I'm right out of central casting.

I think he's going to do the snotty, say the punk rock thing.

Well, that's what I'm thinking.

Right.

And he says, I have to tell you that I'm very sorry about what I said.

And he explained his logic.

He explained his regret.

I guess what I'm trying to say, and this is what I think is more valuable.

And this is where part of our haranguing today is castigating the indie rock system of the 90s and its bullying and its perniciousness, particularly in its bullying of you, which to a certain extent continues.

Mine less so, but it's there.

Well, when you win, there's nothing to crow about.

We won.

Yeah, we did.

But it doesn't mean it didn't hurt at the time.

I mean, it doesn't mean it didn't scar.

Okay, but the point is that when we really look at our generation, our shared generation, I think this is a good place to end.

And we'll pick it up some other time because there's so much more to talk about.

We'll get into that.

Maybe not in front of a camera.

But here's the point I'm trying to make.