Billy Idol

I never communicated that I was unhappy with that.

And consequentially, the record that Billy did afterwards was exactly what I wanted it to be.

You know, Charmed Life is a great record.

And it's back to the roots of it.

Went back to.

and I heard that and I went, Oh, you know, he, he was going, he was going there anyway.

So, you know, but it's great though.

All those, all those are valuable lessons and, and only contribute to how much, how much, how much, what was difficult?

But rock guitars love ambience, and marrying it with a drum kit somehow glues it together.

So a lot of my guitar ideas didn't work against the starkness of the electronic drums and stuff like that.

Well, we tried some real drums on it, but it just didn't work.

It just, you know, it was, it had to be tight.

It had to be locked in, you know, and also Harold Faltermeyer came in to do keyboards on that.

So the keyboards, he's so brilliant.

The keyboards came to the, to the first, you know, so some of the guitar stuff, but also at the same time, what was great is,

I had an idea for a Wes Montgomery-style guitar solo in a song.

And Billy went, yeah, great, do that.

So it was never – he never said, no, no, you can't do that.

Oh, too much guitar.

It just – it was a natural progression.