Bishop Robert Barron
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171 appearances
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3 series
first heard May 2025
last heard 3 Apr
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What does that mean that he used? What significance would you ascribe to that?
That he had a vision that the 20th century would be controlled by Satan.
Opposed to accumulation of wealth for its own sake?
Yes.
Where was Leo XIII on? loaning money to interest, which is the basis of the modern economy in the West.
It's intrinsically evil because then the capital... So how would the church feel about like a credit card that charges 25% interest?
Prison.
Is that, that feels, I mean, I'm so grateful to the Catholic Church for standing up for life, for opposing killing. Yeah. Truly grateful and for emphasizing the poor. I think someone needs to. Yeah. I'm grateful that the Catholic Church has never stopped doing that. But I don't hear any conversation ever from normal Catholic clerics about, hey, maybe you shouldn't exploit people in business.
Last question. If someone's made it to the end of this conversation and is wondering, like, how do I learn more about this religion called Christianity? What's a good place to start?
The sex abuse thing played a big role in that, didn't it?
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As this is happening, our son turned to some substance abuse.
Thanks, Ben. Always good to be with you.
It was extraordinary. There was a lot of, you know, kind of tension beforehand. It's always, you're sort of on tenterhooks during a conclave period, the interregnum, and we weren't sure. A lot of names were being bandied about, including the name of Robert Prevost, though most of us didn't take it seriously. And then I think leading up to the conclave, there was just a lot of
anticipation, a sense of forces jockeying against each other. The announcement itself was amazing. It came so quickly. Most of us thought this would be a longer conclave that might last into the third, even fourth day. And on the second day, we have the white smoke. And so most of us again thought, oh, it must be someone like Cardinal Parolin or one of the really expected candidates.
No one expected Robert Prevost, and certainly not on the fourth ballot. So there was a lot of I think both excitement, surprise, the wonderment about it.
Well, you know, I would look at him in terms of his name. I keep going back to his name, Leo XIV. It's very telling. You know, he could have chosen Francis II, obviously. He could have chosen John Paul III. He could have chosen John XXIV, in which case we would say, oh, he's clearly on this side or that side. Choosing Leo XIV is very interesting. Going back now to a figure more than a century ago,
who represents, I call it, an intelligent, creative engagement with modernity. So think of the 18th century revolutions and then the 19th century innovations in philosophy. Think of Kant, Hegel, Marx, the revolutions, etc. The church's first response to that was an emphatic no, and indeed the church was very persecuted by revolutionary France, for example.
But then by the end of the 19th century, you've got a figure like Leo XIII, who represents this intelligent engagement. It's both a yes and a no to modernity. I think that's what this new pope was gesturing toward in choosing that name, that he was in the tradition of Leo XIII. You know, and conservative Catholics, to this day, find a lot in Leo XIII they like.
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