Bjørn Ihler

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The Documentary Podcast · Bonus: Forgiving a killer - from Lives Less Ordinary · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

That was empowering and important as well.

I wanted him to get the harshest sentence of the law, but not for us to change the law.

So I kind of got my will there.

I think fundamentally what he wanted to do was change the nature of who we were.

And I very defiantly did not want to give him the power to do that.

And I think we kind of stood our ground and met the challenge and the test there as a society that

And it's going to be interesting in six years when the 21-year sentence is up to see how the courts will be grappling with it at that point.

But what will likely happen is that he will be continuously held accountable.

in prison for likely the rest of his life.

As long as he still constitutes a threat to society, there is room in the legal system for keeping him incarcerated.

And so that is very much the likely outcome.

No, I think that was also very important.

I wanted to continue on my trajectory, continue my life and do the things that I wanted to do.

No need to hide how terrifying that was.

But yeah, it still felt like

kind of a necessary step in my own dealing with this because I hadn't gotten what I wanted from the manifesto nor from the court and so going out there and meeting people who had been in similar places to Breivik became kind of a better way for me of understanding how people ended up there and having those conversations with former neo-Nazis was one element but also

Having those conversations with former IRA members, having that with former Islamists, extremists, and extremists of all sorts of different groups and ideologies over the years has been important in that.

But I think more important, perhaps, than understanding their paths of...

Becoming violent extremists in the first place has been understanding how they stopped being that, how they turned their lives around, like the commonality and possibility of turning your life around and heal and heal.

Yeah, roughly.

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